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Kevin J Coleman	Ka'Plogg's Daemon Legion of Nurgle (now a blog!)	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1975 (05/03/08 11:24:16) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None EDIT: This post was originally established to share my army list for the 2008 Necro GT. However, I have decided to turn the thread into more of a blog, where I will post about my battles and talk about my experiences. This blog will include battles from GTs such as the Necro 2008. Please feel free to read and comment!! Thanks, Kevin So, I normally don't share my army lists with anyone before a GT, however, I felt like getting reactions from people on this one. Please comment, grade me on comp, etc. Daemons of Chaos CHARACTERS 670 Ka'Plogg, Great Unclean One + Level 4 Wizard + Staff of Nurgle (D6 S5 hits bound spell) + Trappings of Nurgle (4+ save and Regen) 135 Epidemius, The Tally Man of Nurgle 340 Foulculus, Herald of Nurgle + Level 1 Wizard + Palanquin + BSB + Staff of Nurgle + Great Standard of Sundering (-2 magic lore) CORE 223 14 Plaguebearers + Full Command + Icon of Eternal Virulence (+1 CR for each poison wound caused) 223 14 Plaguebearers + Full Command + Icon of Eternal Virulence (+1 CR for each poison wound caused) Note Epidemius and Foulculus will each lead one of the above units and so these units will be deployed in 3 ranks, 6 wide. 168 14 Plaguebearers 84 7 Chaos Furies (of Nurgle) SPECIAL 105 3 Nurgling bases RARE 300 3 Beasts of Nurgle There you have it, although powerful, I was simply trying to design a fluffy Nurgle list, which is how I enjoy building armies. Nurgle's magic number is 7, so using multiples of the number 7 should attract great blessings from Father Nurgle. You'll note that my Plaguebearers are in multiples of 7, my Furies are 7, my power dice is 7, I have 7 deployments and 7 separate units on the table (Epidemius and Foulculus join units). As soon as I cause 8+ wounds, which should be fast considering my magic with 2 bound spells, the whole army auto wounds on a 4+ to hit (save the furies) because of Epidemius. Tell me your thoughts! Kevin out Common Goblins iz da best! Last Edited By: Kevin J Coleman 06/20/08 08:13:11. Edited 1 time.
Arash		#1	[-]
Posts: 679 (05/03/08 13:28:23) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Powerful is right. I think this is a very strong army, and I can't really say that I could feasibly knock it on comp. I mean you took the Great Unclean One, but nothing too heinous. The Staff of nurgle makes me so sad, its so powerful. Whats its bound level? Also can it pick out characters? Edit- That being said, there is no doubt in my mind that this will get mid-comp at best.
ring87		#2	[-]
Posts: 451 (05/03/08 15:41:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I am disapointed I'm not going to be able to go to the Nerco as planned. Now your list.. Small, slow but hard as nails(Nurgle). You have a good magic phase and a powerful combo that will have people crying cheese the 1st time you get it of. I think you will get mid to low comp but who knows it's to hard to guess as everyone grades differently. I think your marks will depend on how well the combo works. I would give you mid comp. It is very fluffy and you only have 1 unit of beasts. I can see you contending if you win 4. Your a great sport and are fun to play so I think you'll do fine. Good luck. Third Density Endgame
steve		#3	[-]
Posts: 579 (05/03/08 15:45:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Damn Kevin, it may be fluffy but it's hardly friendly, unless your opponents have uber magic you're shafting their magic phase whilst laying down a barrage of your own which then leads to a devastating close combat phase, not only poison on a 4 but +1 CR for each poison wound caused. Ouch. It's Epidemius that grants the 4+ poison right? what happens if he dies after the 4+ is in play? Does it dispel or stay?
VectorAWX3		#4	[-]
Posts: 21713 (05/03/08 16:19:56) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	My elves woiuld cleanse the lands of your foul rot. Easily. Let me know when you want me to smoke that list (using my list from the Colonial). ------------------------------ I'm the Mega Battle Champion, and Rob and Kevin are not. :P
subversive dicedogs		#5	[-]
Posts: 1950 (05/03/08 17:02:54) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	7 drops: ultra high comp. The points values for two of the plaguebearer units actually add up to 7. 223 - 2+2+3=7. Well done! The major weakness is Epidemius himself. If I can kill him, the army loses a lot of its nastiness. ------------ Dice Dogs Vice President. That means I'm in charge of the drugs and hookers.
Kevin J Coleman		#6	[-]
Posts: 1976 (05/03/08 18:34:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The points values for two of the plaguebearer units actually add up to 7. 223 - 2+2+3=7. Well done! ------------------Right! I did not point that out as I was waiting for someone extremely astute to point that one out! Well done Dicedogs Arash, the bound level is 3 for the Staff of Nurgle. Steve, If you kill Epidemius the whole poison bonus is lost. However, he is T6, W2, 5+ ward and Regeneration with the chance of regenerating on a 3+ if I kill enough models. Thanks for the comments, keep them coming.... Kevin out Common Goblins iz da best!
SlydeNYC		#7	[-]
Posts: 201 (05/04/08 00:09:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Well, you have more points in characters than the worst VC lists, a special character that does insane stuff for his paltry cost, and the nuke opponent's magic phase banner. So what does a nasty nurgle list look like then?
xmbk		#8	[-]
Posts: 88 (05/04/08 04:50:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	That's about as fluffy as an Epidemius list can be, with just 1 unit each of Nurglings and Beasts. It should do well, probably a couple of comp hits (the Necro is a much tougher crowd than the Colonial on comp). Are you 100% that Icons can be duplicated? The wording seemed ambiguous to me. Also, is the Necro allowing SC this year? Their site is down ATM. I hadn't realized that Nurgle magic triggered Epidemius' steps. That will make the multiple Nurgling/Beast lists even nastier. I can't believe they upgraded SoC Nurgle. Good luck with it, Kevin - Nurgling bombs are the ... bomb. ;)
Sergrum		#9	[-]
Posts: 1235 (05/04/08 05:23:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Seeing daemons just makes me pissed off at GW. I'd probably trash it in comp despite any fluff, but it'd be hard for me to actually do because it is you Kevin, and if your willing to take gnoblars to Colonial then you can take a hard list to Necro. Last Edited By: Sergrum 05/04/08 05:25:58. Edited 1 times.
Xocer		#10	[-]
Posts: 63 (05/04/08 05:54:41) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think it's a pretty cool list for a dedicated Nurgle approach. I'm not as in love with the Staff as everyone else seems to be, but they do make your magic phase much more productive. Everything looks hard to kill, but very slow moving unless you let the GUO and Beasts outpace the infantry blocks. I would want to get playtest games in against Wood Elves, and Vampires, and maybe a run of the mill Dwarf Army with a few flaming runes. It still seems to me Epedimus can be a liability in some cases. As far as I know, he doesn't have the Locus of Nurgle special rule, so units he joins don't get regenerate. Maybe somebody else can correct me on this. Otherwise, his unit becomes a much more vulnerable target for enemy shooting. Charlie
djhohmann		#11	[-]
Posts: 3415 (05/04/08 06:09:49) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I look forward to a fun matchup - Khorne v Nurgle!
Kevin J Coleman		#12	[-]
Posts: 1977 (05/04/08 07:23:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	So what does a nasty nurgle list look like then? ---------------I'm not saying it's not nasty. Daemons in general are nasty - and being what they are, I think they should be! However, my goal is to make a fluffy Nurgle list and I'm happy with that, just curious what others think. Using a single Chaos Power with the new list is probably fluffy enough alone and mixing armies are those most nasty! Although Epedimius does is tough to kill, he is the target to kill. And he does not have the Locus of Nurgle. Thanks, keep the comments coming.. Kevin ot Common Goblins iz da best!
mattbird		#13	[-]
Posts: 8299 (05/04/08 07:53:45) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	5/5 great job!
Ganymede0425		#14	[-]
Posts: 76 (05/04/08 09:34:04) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	This list is easily a C or D under the Necro's composition system. Not only does it have both a potent close combat phase, but it also has a relentless magic phase. This list also benefits from an incredible amount of synergistic bonuses; the enhanced magic beefs up your potent HTH potential, which further builds upon your high level of resiliency. As for your multiples of 7, maybe you'll get some comp pity with it over on the 40k side of the auditorium. I bet the list will look very nice though. I'd love to see how your planquin mounted herald ends up.
Larro		#15	[-]
Posts: 2155 (05/04/08 17:21:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have to agree with the sentiments of most on the board - this is a pretty "standard" tournament list, and should score a 3/5 on most scoring guideline systems. However, given the whole "new book" crisis that hits mindless gamers every time a new book drops, you MAY see some 2/5s, as the field adjusts to the new book. - Larry On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
deFL0		#16	[-]
Posts: 3574 (05/05/08 06:17:11) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I've been screwing around with a similar list too. I think you have a lot of PBs. Point for point with Epidemius, nurglings are a lot better in hth once the list gets going. I would make the unit that has the herald bigger. If your spending the points on the BSB and banners you might as well have max rank bonus. Plus the more PBs you have in the herald unit the more efficient the list is becasue they are all get regenerate. Also, instead of running epidimiums with a unit of PBs I was considering tossing him with with the beasts of nurgle or the nurlgings, or even the big unit with the herald. Also, I'm not sure if you ahve the points but for 10 points slime trail seams and solid upgrade for the herald as it give ths whole unit the aiblity to ignore flank and rear bonus. In such a small army you'll be hit from all sides.
VectorAWX3		#17	[-]
Posts: 21720 (05/05/08 06:19:06) Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh no!!! You wound my elves on a 4+!!! Woe is me!!!!! ------------------------------ I'm the Mega Battle Champion, and Rob and Kevin are not. :P
Ronen Warrior		#18	[-]
Posts: 5909 (05/05/08 07:04:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Kevin, it's a great list. Not top comp though. 3/4 out of 5. Great work! Edit: It gets dinged because of repeat magic "items". Vary it up, change one banner away from poison = combat res, and replace a staff of nurgle and you're golden.
Ganymede0425		#19	[-]
Posts: 77 (05/05/08 07:49:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I don't think that adding a variety of upgrades and items would be enough to make this list warrant perfect comp. When all is said and done, we still have to confront the reality that this list is really, really strong. In my mind, really, really strong lists (by definition) can't get perfect comp.
djhohmann		#20	[-]
Posts: 3424 (05/05/08 08:06:15) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Even when we already know that really, really strong lists are well rounded, combat res oreinted lists like VC, Empire, etc.? Really "Strong" is really bullshit.

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