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deFL0	5th ed Retnues	Lead	[-]
Posts: 3796 (07/15/08 09:38:00) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Note: I'm writing a 5th ed blog on tactics, so I'm looking for comments that will then be moved to a blog. So after reading through the 5th ed rules one of things I thought was interesting was the concept of retinues. Basically, the independent character becomes a squad upgrade and untargetable in hth by anything except wound saturation of the entire squad. Strangley most of the new codecies have removed this language of retnues. So some armies have it and some armies do not. List of Armies: Space Marines: Yes - Command Squad Dark Angels: Yes - Command Squad Blood Angels: No Black Templar: Yes - Command squads, and chaplain wargear Space Wolves: Yes - Command Squad Chaos Space Marines: No Eldar: No Orks: ? - Can Nobs be a retnue? Imperial Guard: Yes - HQ platoons Witch Hunters: Yes - Celestina Retnue & Inquisitor Henchman Deamon Hunters: Yes - Inquisitor Henchman & Grey Knight??? Tyranids: Yes - Hive Tryannt and Tyrant Guard Tau: Crisis team? Necrons: No Dark Eldar: Yes - Inqubi Kroot: Yes - Not sure of name I'd also like to list strong and commonly used retinues for most of the armies if possible. Last Edited By: deFL0 07/16/08 10:16:54. Edited 1 time.
Xocer		#1	[-]
Posts: 89 (07/15/08 10:14:57) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think with Grey Knights the HQ's can take Terminator unit retinues, so that would be a yes. Also you left off Black Templars, which don't have retinues. I don't think the Orks take any units as retinues anymore. On an entirely different tangent, I recently witnessed what a squad of Black Templar Assault Terminators does with preferred enemy now. And they can run....and fall forward....God in Heaven. Charlie
deFL0		#2	[-]
Posts: 3797 (07/15/08 10:45:50) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	A right, black templar. I think the chaplain can taker servitors or something right? Pete
Xocer		#3	[-]
Posts: 90 (07/15/08 13:01:55) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The Chaplain servitors are Wargear, actually. I haven't a clue how they effect units they join. Charlie
Sword Brother Jeramakus		#4	[-]
Posts: 3991 (07/15/08 14:45:46) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Black Templar Chaplains can take up to three Cenobyte Servitors as wargear. The Servitors act as their own unit in HTH plus the Chappy and posse can be attached to regular squads as well as be given a Command Squad as regular Space Marines... -Joe
coredump		#5	[-]
Posts: 132 (07/16/08 02:58:46) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I am not overly familiar with the SM-type codices... How do we know that the SM command squad is a retinue? Can't the commander leave the command squad if he wants to? As for Nids, The Blord has a retinue. The Tyrant can have guard, but that is slightly different, since the tyrant is never an IC anyway. ------------------------- "This is the WARMONGER BOARDS!!! Every thread degenerates. You're lucky it hasn't yet turned to dogfighting or gay porn or something." Nidal
deFL0		#6	[-]
Posts: 3799 (07/16/08 05:25:30) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Not if it's a retnue. Retnues pretty much always say that the character is locked to the squad until he's the last member standing then regains IC status. In 5th ed though that means you can't load wounds up on him like you could in 4th ed. Pete
coredump		#7	[-]
Posts: 133 (07/16/08 06:39:38) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	No, the part I was missing was p.21. Otherwise I couldn't see why we 'knew' it was a retinue. Now it all makes sense. ------------------------- "This is the WARMONGER BOARDS!!! Every thread degenerates. You're lucky it hasn't yet turned to dogfighting or gay porn or something." Nidal Last Edited By: coredump 07/16/08 09:06:07. Edited 2 times.
ZiggyQubert		#8	[-]
Posts: 562 (07/16/08 09:52:56) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Pete - Blood angels and Eldar, niether have retinues, they are both worded the same way "for each X you may take a squad of Y It counts as a seperate unit but.... bla bla bla" ------------------ - Brookie
deFL0		#9	[-]
Posts: 3802 (07/16/08 10:30:42) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ok I've editted the top. Now build me your best retinues!!! I'll start with witch hunters: Cannoness, blessed weapon, book of st lucius, brazer of holyfire, litanies of faith, 9 celestians, heavy flamer, flamer, vet sister, eviscerator, brazer of holyfire. In a rhino (or landraider from an inquisitor), with smoke and extra armor. Everything is re roll to hit (I think the new hatred rule is re roll to hit), 4 rending flamers with a re roll on the faith test. Good tank hunting from the evicerator, or from the +2 strength faith power. Lots of ignore armor attacks. 4 faith added. Another 4 faith if they die. Plus and auto pass faith from the litanies. RE roll able unmodifiable 10 LD. Pete
CrappyMarinePlayer	Ultimate Retinue	#10	[-]
Posts: 32 (07/16/08 14:03:10) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Grey Knight Grand Master with Psycannon with 4 Grey Knight Terminators, one armed with Psycannon. That makes 2 Psycannons, one BS5, 4 str 6 Force Weapon attacks and 8 str 6 Power weapon attacks all with WS 5. Fearless, they have a built in Psychic Hood leadership 10 against any psychic powers used against them and they have the shrouding. This squad almost defeated an entire Ravenwing army at the Necro for me. Definitely the most powerful retinue I have used. Last Edited By: CrappyMarinePlayer 07/16/08 14:13:05. Edited 1 times.
deFL0		#11	[-]
Posts: 3804 (07/16/08 15:03:34) Moderator More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I used to use that exact format years ago when the grey knights first came out. I agree that it is very strong. You can also buy a landraider for it. Not that you would use it necesarily for the termies but you can always throw something else into it. Pete
ZiggyQubert		#12	[-]
Posts: 565 (07/17/08 04:53:40) More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	How about Calgar leading an Ultramarines Honor guard, with Tigerious and a chaplin attached, sure it's expensive (800 pts maby) and maby you have to use a regular librian instead of tigerious but man is it nasty, reroll hits on the charge it's all PW attacks (the honor guard have 2 each) and calgar has dual power fists as well as the inquisitors special choose to pass or fail any LD checks. Oh ya and 3 indepindent characters that count as squad upgrades, as well as the two upgrades for the squad if you want ------------------ - Brookie

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